{"id":2359,"date":"2021-06-21T01:54:08","date_gmt":"2021-06-21T01:54:08","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/struvefamily.org\/?page_id=2359"},"modified":"2021-06-23T01:42:57","modified_gmt":"2021-06-23T01:42:57","slug":"kirms-family","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/www.struvefamily.org\/?page_id=2359","title":{"rendered":"Kirms Family"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">DOROTHEA BERLICH (1577 \u2013 1637) AND THE KIRMS FAMILY<br>The Kirms family is connected to the main trunk of this family history website via Dorothea Berlich. She was the daughter of<a href=\"http:\/\/struvefamily.org\/?page_id=440\" data-type=\"page\" data-id=\"440\"> Nikolaus Berlich and Maria Kodritzsch<\/a> and hence the sister of the Three Loeck Sisters Nth great grandfather Georg Peter Berlich, the aunt of Burchard Berlich, and the great aunt of <a href=\"http:\/\/struvefamily.org\/?page_id=451\" data-type=\"page\" data-id=\"451\">Susanna (Berlich) Struve<\/a>. On 12 January 1599 Dorothea Berlich married Johann Kirmers \/ Kirms (1561 &#8211; 1624).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Johann and Dorothea (Berlich) Kirms had a son Joachim (1614 -1692) who married Margarethe Lind and they had a son Joachim (1668 -1719). It was this son who probably bought the Kirms Haus at Jakobstra\u00dfe 10 in Weimar (see below). In turn Joachim had a son Joachim Caspar (*1698 in Weimar, \u2020 1770 ibid.). He married Friederike Maria Rosine Hagen (1723-1809) and they had a son Franz (1750 &#8211; 1826), a friend of Goethe&#8217;s. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Below, an illustration from Joachim Caspar\u2019s Stammbuch. The book also included three autographs by two members of the Struve family: Friedrich Gottlieb Struve (the Three Loeck Sisters&#8217; Nth great grandfather) and Burchard Gotthelf Struve, as well as Christian Wildvogel. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-columns is-layout-flex wp-container-core-columns-is-layout-8f761849 wp-block-columns-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"aligncenter size-large is-resized\"><a href=\"http:\/\/struvefamily.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/Friedrich-Gottlieb-Struve-Autograph-in-Kirms-Stammbuch-.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/struvefamily.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/Friedrich-Gottlieb-Struve-Autograph-in-Kirms-Stammbuch-.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-2385\" width=\"259\" height=\"127\"\/><\/a><figcaption><em>Friedrich Gottlieb Struve<br><\/em><\/figcaption><\/figure><\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"aligncenter size-large is-resized\"><a href=\"http:\/\/struvefamily.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/Burchard-Gotthelf-Struve-Autograph-in-Kirms-Stammbuch-3.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/struvefamily.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/Burchard-Gotthelf-Struve-Autograph-in-Kirms-Stammbuch-3.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-2408\" width=\"249\" height=\"130\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.struvefamily.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/Burchard-Gotthelf-Struve-Autograph-in-Kirms-Stammbuch-3.jpg 523w, https:\/\/www.struvefamily.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/Burchard-Gotthelf-Struve-Autograph-in-Kirms-Stammbuch-3-300x157.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 249px) 100vw, 249px\" \/><\/a><figcaption>Burchra Struve Gotthelf<\/figcaption><\/figure><\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"aligncenter size-large is-resized\"><a href=\"http:\/\/struvefamily.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/Christian-Wildvogel-Autograph-in-Kirms-Stammbuch-1.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/struvefamily.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/Christian-Wildvogel-Autograph-in-Kirms-Stammbuch-1.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-2388\" width=\"229\" height=\"136\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.struvefamily.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/Christian-Wildvogel-Autograph-in-Kirms-Stammbuch-1.jpg 481w, https:\/\/www.struvefamily.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/Christian-Wildvogel-Autograph-in-Kirms-Stammbuch-1-300x178.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 229px) 100vw, 229px\" \/><\/a><figcaption><em>Christian Wildvogel <\/em><\/figcaption><\/figure><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"aligncenter size-large is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/struvefamily.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/Illustration-from-the-Stammbuch-of-Kirms-Johann-Caspar-1024x616.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-2379\" width=\"654\" height=\"393\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.struvefamily.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/Illustration-from-the-Stammbuch-of-Kirms-Johann-Caspar-1024x616.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.struvefamily.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/Illustration-from-the-Stammbuch-of-Kirms-Johann-Caspar-300x181.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.struvefamily.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/Illustration-from-the-Stammbuch-of-Kirms-Johann-Caspar-768x462.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.struvefamily.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/Illustration-from-the-Stammbuch-of-Kirms-Johann-Caspar-1536x925.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.struvefamily.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/Illustration-from-the-Stammbuch-of-Kirms-Johann-Caspar-2048x1233.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 654px) 100vw, 654px\" \/><figcaption>Joachim Caspar\u2019s Stammbuch<\/figcaption><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-columns is-layout-flex wp-container-core-columns-is-layout-8f761849 wp-block-columns-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"aligncenter size-large is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/struvefamily.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/bernhardine_schmidt_geb_kirms_1743-1818_large.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-2370\" width=\"359\" height=\"461\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.struvefamily.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/bernhardine_schmidt_geb_kirms_1743-1818_large.jpg 347w, https:\/\/www.struvefamily.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/bernhardine_schmidt_geb_kirms_1743-1818_large-233x300.jpg 233w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 359px) 100vw, 359px\" \/><figcaption>Bernhardine Kirms<\/figcaption><\/figure><\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"aligncenter size-large is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/struvefamily.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/Achatius-Ludwig-Karl-Schmif.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-2372\" width=\"369\" height=\"462\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.struvefamily.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/Achatius-Ludwig-Karl-Schmif.jpg 264w, https:\/\/www.struvefamily.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/Achatius-Ludwig-Karl-Schmif-240x300.jpg 240w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 369px) 100vw, 369px\" \/><figcaption>Achatius Ludwig Karl Schmif<\/figcaption><\/figure><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"aligncenter size-large\"><a href=\"http:\/\/struvefamily.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/2021-Kirms-Berlich-Gleditsch-Family-Chart.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"640\" src=\"http:\/\/struvefamily.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/2021-Kirms-Berlich-Gleditsch-Family-Chart-1024x640.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-2376\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.struvefamily.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/2021-Kirms-Berlich-Gleditsch-Family-Chart-1024x640.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.struvefamily.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/2021-Kirms-Berlich-Gleditsch-Family-Chart-300x187.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.struvefamily.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/2021-Kirms-Berlich-Gleditsch-Family-Chart-768x480.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.struvefamily.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/2021-Kirms-Berlich-Gleditsch-Family-Chart.jpg 1383w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The Kirms house in Weimar, now a museum, contains many family portraits. In 1672 the house belonged to Friedrich Happe the ducal cashier. In 1701, Johann Joachim Kirms (1668 &#8211; 1719) acquired it for 213 thalers. The financial means probably come from the father, a master butcher. His son Joachim Caspar Kirms (1698-1770) inherited the property in 1751.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-columns is-layout-flex wp-container-core-columns-is-layout-8f761849 wp-block-columns-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"aligncenter size-large is-resized\"><a href=\"http:\/\/struvefamily.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/Kirms-Haus-in-Weimar-1.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/struvefamily.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/Kirms-Haus-in-Weimar-1.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-2393\" width=\"401\" height=\"267\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.struvefamily.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/Kirms-Haus-in-Weimar-1.jpg 440w, https:\/\/www.struvefamily.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/Kirms-Haus-in-Weimar-1-300x200.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 401px) 100vw, 401px\" \/><\/a><\/figure><\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"aligncenter size-large is-resized\"><a href=\"http:\/\/struvefamily.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/Kirms-House-Interior.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/struvefamily.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/Kirms-House-Interior.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-2394\" width=\"400\" height=\"162\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.struvefamily.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/Kirms-House-Interior.jpg 330w, https:\/\/www.struvefamily.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/Kirms-House-Interior-300x122.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 400px) 100vw, 400px\" \/><\/a><figcaption>Two interior views of the Kirms house<\/figcaption><\/figure><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Franz_Kirms\">Franz Kirms<\/a> (* 1750; \u2020 1826, shown below) was Johann Wolfgang von Goethe&#8217;s &#8220;comrade&#8221; in the management of the Weimar Theater. Right, a letter from Goethe to Franz Kirms.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-columns is-layout-flex wp-container-core-columns-is-layout-8f761849 wp-block-columns-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"aligncenter size-large\"><a href=\"http:\/\/struvefamily.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/Franz-Kirms.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"455\" height=\"457\" src=\"http:\/\/struvefamily.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/Franz-Kirms.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-2398\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.struvefamily.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/Franz-Kirms.jpg 455w, https:\/\/www.struvefamily.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/Franz-Kirms-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.struvefamily.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/Franz-Kirms-150x150.jpg 150w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 455px) 100vw, 455px\" \/><\/a><figcaption>Frans Kirms son of Joachim Caspar Kirms and <br>Friederike Maria Rosine Hagen<\/figcaption><\/figure><\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"aligncenter size-large is-resized\"><a href=\"http:\/\/struvefamily.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/Franz-Kirms-Letter-Weimar-to-Franz-Kirms-by-Goethe-Johann-Wolfgang-von-1749-1832.jpeg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/struvefamily.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/Franz-Kirms-Letter-Weimar-to-Franz-Kirms-by-Goethe-Johann-Wolfgang-von-1749-1832-799x1024.jpeg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-2400\" width=\"388\" height=\"497\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.struvefamily.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/Franz-Kirms-Letter-Weimar-to-Franz-Kirms-by-Goethe-Johann-Wolfgang-von-1749-1832-799x1024.jpeg 799w, https:\/\/www.struvefamily.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/Franz-Kirms-Letter-Weimar-to-Franz-Kirms-by-Goethe-Johann-Wolfgang-von-1749-1832-234x300.jpeg 234w, https:\/\/www.struvefamily.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/Franz-Kirms-Letter-Weimar-to-Franz-Kirms-by-Goethe-Johann-Wolfgang-von-1749-1832-768x984.jpeg 768w, https:\/\/www.struvefamily.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/Franz-Kirms-Letter-Weimar-to-Franz-Kirms-by-Goethe-Johann-Wolfgang-von-1749-1832.jpeg 1171w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 388px) 100vw, 388px\" \/><\/a><\/figure><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"aligncenter size-large is-resized\"><a href=\"http:\/\/struvefamily.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/The-Weimar_Kirms-Krackow-Haus-2.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/struvefamily.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/The-Weimar_Kirms-Krackow-Haus-2-504x1024.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-2414\" width=\"394\" height=\"801\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.struvefamily.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/The-Weimar_Kirms-Krackow-Haus-2-504x1024.jpg 504w, 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